tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post1401796365267122795..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: Honouring ChazalMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-19404631604507083972010-11-28T13:15:22.293-05:002010-11-28T13:15:22.293-05:00What do we call a rationalist who lets bias cloud ...What do we call a rationalist who lets bias cloud his reason? That type needs a new name!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11088882748518758064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-43945750421029521472010-11-28T11:52:22.545-05:002010-11-28T11:52:22.545-05:00The key to the issue is, perhaps, your presentatio...The key to the issue is, perhaps, your presentation within the non-rationalist argument that Chazal had ruach hakodoesh. While this issue is not simplistic, the very idea of lo b'shamayim hi is that a concept such as ruach hakodesh is not to have a place in the Halachic system. The essence of the argument against the non-rationalists is the very fact that Torah demands of us to conclude and recognize that Chazal did not employ ruach hakodesh in their decision making and that is essential to the Torah system. The result is that we are called upon by Hashem to use our minds within a world of cause and effect as we perceive it and it is thereby that we reach God's objective for us. The simple reason is that it is solely within this world of cause and effect that we can develop our thought processes which is essential to meeting the Divine goal of Creation. The rationalist argument is not just presented because we want to square Torah with our perception of reality -- a goal that the non-rationalist sees as reflecting a lack of emunah. The essence of the rationalist argument is that this type of thinking and analysis is necessary to meet the Divine goal -- and the non-rationalist argument while looking frumer is actually thwarting this Divine goal.<br /><br />One final point. Garnel writes:<br />"Both sides agree that Chazal were great men who had a supreme knowledge of Torah that we can study and analyze but not improve upon." I am not sure what he means by "improve upon" but, as Rav Moshe said, chas v'shalom that there should be presented a keitz to Torah. Torah is ever growing and, in this mindset, we must also recognize that we can further build Torah. As the gemara in Chulin states, the previous generations left us space for us to make our own name within Torah. Chazal was infinitely greater than us but we stand upon their shoulders. In that light, we can go beyond Chazal l'chazik Torah u'lhadiro. It is in this vein that the non-rationalists ultimatley challenge the very foundation of the greatness of Torah and Chazal.<br /><br />Rabbi Ben HechtNishmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237299801109329429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-71754046703168865422010-11-28T11:04:10.138-05:002010-11-28T11:04:10.138-05:00The anti reason people based on the anti rambam mo...The anti reason people based on the anti rambam movement. they based themselves on the French baali hatosphot. But there were no real gedolim around by the time the anti maimon movement got it momentum. The only one person who was on any level to even comment about the rambam was the ramban. But the other so called rishonim that were part of the anti rambam school simply copied over the tosphot that had already been written down and put their names on it plus and became forever known as great rishonim for rigorous thinking done by someone else. And that authority gave them the ability to attack the rambam's rational school of thought. <br /> They managed to derail Judaism from then on.Avraham https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822433921393627746noreply@blogger.com