tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post1908854628316008857..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: The Halachic Process: Chareidim vs Modern OrthodoxyMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-39744874168703320342009-02-04T21:57:00.000-05:002009-02-04T21:57:00.000-05:00Uh... curtailing the rampant personal autonomy in ...Uh... curtailing the rampant personal autonomy in MO, would essentially transform MO into another sect of chareidim. No thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-42566548519916534202009-01-25T13:42:00.000-05:002009-01-25T13:42:00.000-05:00You're not breaking any new ground here. Remember...You're not breaking any new ground here. Remember how Joe Leiberman started the 2000 presidential campaign as an Orthodox Jew, then was demoted to traditional, then wound up as committed.<BR/><BR/>Recall the news stories of how he attended a luncheon on Tisha B'Av or how he shared an aliyah with his daughter at a Reform temple?<BR/><BR/>No Chareidi Jew would ever be tapped to run for the presidency because his lifestyle would preclude him from it. It seems that some in the MO world have a source of premissiveness that allows them to get around those niggly facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-24683753106118839602009-01-25T12:21:00.000-05:002009-01-25T12:21:00.000-05:00You know what would be fun - do a post about the d...You know what would be fun - do a post about the dilemmas of an MO running for and elected President of the US. Can we find Hetterim for:<BR/><BR/>Slow dancing with the wife at the inaugural ball. When she is a Niddah. With a dress that isn't so prim that it would be a Chillul Hashem. Swearing on a new testament since using an Old one would really tick people off. Wife holding the bible when she is a Niddah. Campaigning on Shabbos, since a non-Jew in the WH is Pikuach Nefesh. Entering the National Cathedral (check). Asking priests to pray to JC on your behalf...<BR/><BR/>It's mistama all muttar because if it would be found out that an O Jew couldn't be President it would hurt kiruv efforts which is pikuach nefesh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-82063365994638630072009-01-18T07:52:00.000-05:002009-01-18T07:52:00.000-05:00The reasons you listed regarding handshaking are t...The reasons you listed regarding handshaking are those brought by Rav Henkin in his teshuva. My luck isn't as good as yours. I have to rely on it almost daily in my line of work.<BR/><BR/>My experience with MO's has consisted of meeeting people with extremely lenient opinions on an issue, for example hair covering or what foods in a supermarket don't need a hechsher, who then either mention a rav I've never heard of or say that their rabbi told them it was okay and they figure he wouldn't have said so if it wasn't. Now, this certainly isn't the official MO position, I appreciate that and I think part of my frustration with MO is the gap between the official position and the actual practice out here in the periphery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-78113661904565770082009-01-18T05:37:00.000-05:002009-01-18T05:37:00.000-05:00On what halachic issue does the Modern Orthodox Wo...On what halachic issue does the Modern Orthodox World just pick some random posek from out of nowhere? In my (admittedly limited) experience, those who want to be extremely lenient don't usually bother digging up teshuvas.<BR/><BR/>(vis-a-vis handshaking by the way, my rabbi told me that I can rely on the position that if she sticks her hand out first, you shake to avoid embarrasing her; I haven't been in a situation where I've had to rely on this yet. I've also dug up a bunch of sources -- including R' Reuven Feinstein's understanding of his father's psak -- for this understanding.)Baruchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08051421355654178857noreply@blogger.com