tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post497697289080792864..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: Is it Racism or ZionismMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-76913280422366978072011-01-02T00:32:18.497-05:002011-01-02T00:32:18.497-05:00I don't think you can write off #1 and #2 so q...I don't think you can write off #1 and #2 so quickly. The loyalties of many Israeli Arabs are, at best, unprovable. And if you attend some of the demonstrations that occur on the west side of Green Line, you may learn something. Surveys of Israeli Arabs do not indicate what you claim. We do not see them proclaiming their involvement or loyalty to the state by volunteering for National Service, and the like. Every year some small number are convicted for aiding terrorists or engaging in espionage. And those Arab MKs? There are 14 of them (counting 4 Druzim, which may not be fair). 10 of those belong to parties and have taken public positions antagonistic to the existence of Israel as a Zionist, Jewish state. Those 10 don't get elected by insignificant numbers of voters. And the voters choose them because they know what positions they will stake out in the public arena.<br /><br />I think you're looking at things through some rosy glasses. Go spend a few years in Israel. See and feel up close the realities before you dismiss the idea that many Israeli Arabs support in some form radical change or even the downfall of their host Jewish state. There are many who do not; just as 4 of the Arab MKs belong to Zionist parties. But me thinks you paint the picture too rosy, indeed.Mordechai Y. Schernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-334583951881374092010-12-30T20:02:00.034-05:002010-12-30T20:02:00.034-05:00Read my blog.<a href="http://www.thoughtsofasj.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Read my blog.</a>SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-90079570630020047382010-12-29T16:35:34.811-05:002010-12-29T16:35:34.811-05:00You know what, I have changed my mind completely a...You know what, I have changed my mind completely about this issue. There's an old joke that goes like this; What do you say to an Arab woman with 2 black eyes? The answer is nothing. She's been told twice already.<br /><br />This year Israel has graduated into the first world economy class. It takes in more than double per capita than the United States does in foreign investments and has the highest rates of patents per capita than any other country in the world. Pretty impressive huh!<br /><br />In the midst of all of this we have a population that still practices polygamy and carries out honor killings. There are currently thousands of Jewish women who are intermarried with Arabs. Most of them and there children are in captive situations of the extreme magnitude. Arab men have a prolactivity to hit on Jewish women because they would get their balls cut off if they tried to do this in their own villages. I might also add that our women look a helava lot better. Promoting further investment in land is a nice long term stratagy but it will not stop this problem.<br /><br />At the heart of this we have 2 important issues that trump everything else. They are al tammod b'dam reicha and pikuach nefesh. This trumps everything else including humanism and political correctness. It even trumps concerns regarding how such an edict would currently effect Jews in chutz l'aretz. That's all I have to say about the subject.Bartley Kulpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-69911462232938872562010-12-27T13:21:58.824-05:002010-12-27T13:21:58.824-05:00I did not say that very well. I meant to say, ask ...I did not say that very well. I meant to say, ask the residents of Netanya if they the presence of Arab med students make them feel threatened.Bartley Kulpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-83164029519558542882010-12-27T13:16:32.085-05:002010-12-27T13:16:32.085-05:00Where I live in Haifa one is more likely to be blo...Where I live in Haifa one is more likely to be blown up as an innocent by stander from some bomb set off by the Russian mafia than by an Arab terrorist. Ask the residents in Natanya if they feel that the presents of Arab med students (like in Safed) make them fell threatened? They have been suffering mafia related violence for years now.Bartley Kulpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-31617119560824070112010-12-26T04:18:59.432-05:002010-12-26T04:18:59.432-05:00I think it's a tendency for middle easterners ...I think it's a tendency for middle easterners in general (israelis and arabs) to confuse legal ownership with political sovereignty.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.com