tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post5097210939740340197..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: Let's Make NoiseMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-8508571689242075892010-07-12T15:24:01.148-04:002010-07-12T15:24:01.148-04:00Who said anything about a rally? Why is it that w...Who said anything about a rally? Why is it that when the Mumbai Chabad family was being held hostage I got an urgent call from my local shaliach asking me to say tehillim for them while when Shalit was kidnapped I got nothing? No recognition, no announcements about a fellow Jew in trouble, nothing.<br />Why all the desperate essays supporting Rubashkin? Why is no one writing about how we should all be saying tehillim and focusing our prayers on a safe return for Gilad? WHY?<br />Mishpacha magazine? Please. When the actual explusion was happening, where were they? Rav Yonasan Rosenblum himself noted in an article at the time that the biggest problem the Chareidim had with it was the loss of bug-free lettuc they would have to suffer with. When there were rallies against the expulsion, where were the Chareidim because they sure didn't come out. Now years later they're writing about it?Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-51616809728565420902010-07-11T11:41:44.289-04:002010-07-11T11:41:44.289-04:00Of all the stupid criticisms one could level again...Of all the stupid criticisms one could level against Charedim, this is perhaps one of the most moronic.<br /><br />Let's say Mr. Ironheart were to get off his oversized tuchus (instead of talking out of it) and actually do something like organize a rally. Hamas would send him a commendation, because they *want* Israelis to press for his release at all costs, no matter how many might be murdered by the Hamas terrorists released in exchange.<br /><br />Shalit, as a soldier in the Israeli army, supposedly has the full power and resources of the Israeli government behind him... yet the Charedim are supposed to do what the government will not?<br /><br />It's stupid. But if your agenda has nothing to do with Shalit's freedom but is instead about bashing Charedim, anything will do.<br /><br />P.S. Mishpacha magazine's cover story this week is "Moving Past Their Grief', about those expelled from Gush Katif and how they are rebuilding against all odds. Another article is, imagine this, about Shalit and why Israeli Intelligence has failed him. Really sounds like the charedim only care about themselves, doesn't it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-68889248476543089552010-07-08T23:43:34.348-04:002010-07-08T23:43:34.348-04:00This is pretty sick stuff. Criminals get a heroes ...This is pretty sick stuff. Criminals get a heroes welcome in Lakewood, yet they can't get a few people out for Gilad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-11351358579013043162010-07-07T15:04:13.383-04:002010-07-07T15:04:13.383-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-27897766755461922242010-07-07T15:03:47.932-04:002010-07-07T15:03:47.932-04:00The problem with Pollard is it seems Pollard was i...The problem with Pollard is it seems Pollard was in the classified information business before he spied for Israel an it seems Pollard's spying may have led to the execution of American spies.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-10763258069507283532010-07-07T14:51:53.030-04:002010-07-07T14:51:53.030-04:00In the order listed in the post:
1) Martin Grossma...In the order listed in the post:<br />1) Martin Grossman<br />2) Sholom Rubashkin<br />3) The Slonimer ChasidimGarnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-25956443822912388582010-07-07T11:04:37.775-04:002010-07-07T11:04:37.775-04:00Whom were you talking about
"R' Pesach L...Whom were you talking about<br /><br />"R' Pesach Lerner called on everyone to email and fax the white house to try and secure the release of a spy and traitor to the country, "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-68427515993161703142010-07-07T09:02:19.555-04:002010-07-07T09:02:19.555-04:00Did I mention Pollard?Did I mention Pollard?Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-54195261736111346292010-07-06T17:40:15.376-04:002010-07-06T17:40:15.376-04:00By which stretch of your imagination are you class...By which stretch of your imagination are you classifying Pollard and The FL case as Chareidi. I might add that the Chareidim were late arrivals on the Pollard case. The only foreign case I can think of was the Bochrim in Japan, but that was more of a fundraiser. As others have said previously , Hamas probably would be encouraged to further atrocities by American anger.<br /><br />Personally being of Yeshivisha stock, I wouldn't drink wine if Rubashkin touched the bottle and I cringe at the idea of supporting a spy. The issue in both cases is that the penalty exceeded the norms and these people were being singled out for special treatment.<br /><br />I suspect the Florida case was pushed by Alef (which is a chabad orginization) to avoid the kind of remarks you're making.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-9323486623061292922010-06-30T15:57:07.366-04:002010-06-30T15:57:07.366-04:00dittodittoChananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-21014930882959485992010-06-30T08:47:49.432-04:002010-06-30T08:47:49.432-04:00I think you're basically correct here. I'...I think you're basically correct here. I'd offer as a possible explanation (if not much of an excuse) for the behavior you describe that protests, demonstrations, agitation, complaining, etc. is generally thought to be more effective against democracies than against organizations like Hamas. I suppose one could even say that, when the so called gedolim denounce you as a nazi and insist that your actions are ungodly and against Torah, they're paying you the (implicit) compliment of assuming that those words might hurt your feelings enough to cause you to take action. It's hard to imagine that working with Hamas.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752938979399977997noreply@blogger.com