tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post5106587521548935331..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: The Real Holy SpotMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-84129571527508836472013-01-23T22:12:05.999-05:002013-01-23T22:12:05.999-05:00We missed a tremendous opportunity in 1967 to take...We missed a tremendous opportunity in 1967 to take full control over Har HaBayis. We had the upper hand and could have done it.chaim b.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-48964781259942178522013-01-22T21:25:34.835-05:002013-01-22T21:25:34.835-05:00Tefillah bimkom korban was the one silver lining o...Tefillah bimkom korban was the one silver lining of the horrific churban/destruction. It was time to transition out of modes of worship used in the ancient world, and to adopt prayer as the more modern way to worship. <br /><br />As far as the future, we'd be nuts to restore sacrifice. It ain't the Bronze Age anymore. IMO, if we want to truly evolve, we need to transition out of prayer as well, or any "worship" whatsoever.<br /><br />That's my only quibble with the WoW people. They should thank God for being excluded from such idle worship! (Yes, idle - though "idol" may apply too.)Atheodox Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06404924424040480039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-39973221872830342592013-01-22T21:18:09.505-05:002013-01-22T21:18:09.505-05:00"we seem to have forgotten that the Kosel isn..."we seem to have forgotten that the Kosel isn't the centre of Jewish world but a poor substitute because of the current occupants beyond.<br /><br />We seem to have forgotten that we are also in galut. <br /><br />And who is to say which part will the women have and what size it will be? The gemara even discusses the different options it tried to see what work. When Mashiach comes will we go to the level before Adam and Chava, where women wont have the punishement from Chava? Or just pre-destruction? Who knows? bs"D we will find out soon, hopefully with peace. Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11988396893369485100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-53961062398364624522013-01-22T20:40:43.251-05:002013-01-22T20:40:43.251-05:00The problem with the idea of rebuilding the Third ...The problem with the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple (aside from the reaction of the Muslims) is that nothing the Jewish people has shown lately suggests they are capable of dealing with such an event.<br /><br />I know the Women of the Wall aren't the main focus of this post, but regardless of what you think about them, their motives, or their form of protest, the fact that they continue to do it really just illustrates my point. One of the biggest reason WoW keep coming to the wall is the reaction they get. And what kind of reaction? One that, by any standard, is absolutely shameful and which reflects incredibly poorly on anyone who considers themselves a religious Jew.<br /><br />Everywhere you look our people are fractured, divided, defensive, intolerant, and a lot of the time, just plain old mean. Whether it's politics, halacha, culture, geography, many of our default modes is to treat them like crap, whether in person or online.<br /><br />So frankly, even if I actually wanted a Temple, even if I actually wanted to bring back korbanot, and even if I didn't think the people behind all these projects to "set up" Temple systems as soon as the Messiah magically restores it were borderline nuts, I still wouldn't think it is remotely a good idea for us anytime soon. If we can't deal with sharing a wall, if we can't deal share a street, a bus, or online communities with each other, we certainly aren't ready to try re-centralizing Judaism again around an actual Temple with priests and sacrifices. We can't agree on which rabbis to listen to, but somehow we're going to get a consensus on a High Priest?<br /><br />There is no "right people." The people are us. And assuming we ever had a group of "right people" (as opposed to people who were merely in charge), we haven't had them for a while.<br /><br />There are lots of reasons we shouldn't have the Temple. One is that we're not ready. But another may be that we don't deserve it. Not yet.Friar Yidhttp://friaryid.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-19859193194894795692013-01-22T15:45:43.550-05:002013-01-22T15:45:43.550-05:00How can we merit to rebuild the Temple, if we fail...How can we merit to rebuild the Temple, if we fail to treat our synagogues with proper respect?Mr. Cohenhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DerechEmet/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-51765638515700740252013-01-22T15:40:24.879-05:002013-01-22T15:40:24.879-05:00The women at the wall will do teshuva whem moshiac...The women at the wall will do teshuva whem moshiach comes as well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-32022248762563941812013-01-22T10:11:15.895-05:002013-01-22T10:11:15.895-05:00The phenomenon you mention is known as "nekei...The phenomenon you mention is known as "nekeivah tesoveiv gever" See this for more information: http://www.ou.org/index.php/jewish_action/article/28208/Adam Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381597267003497426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-7837656938708811522013-01-22T09:53:30.951-05:002013-01-22T09:53:30.951-05:00Presumably, if the Har Habayit was rebuilt, it wou...Presumably, if the Har Habayit was rebuilt, it would happen because Moshiach (Messiah) had arrived. If that was the case, a whole lot of other things would be happening as well, which could have an impact on resumption of services after a 2,000 year hiatus. As if a massive war followed by eternal peace, and the raising of the dead weren't enough, there is also a teaching that I heard via Chabad that in the days of Moshiach, the feminine will dominate the masculine. [See http://rabbifinman.com/eparshap2.html or http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380541/jewish/Kabbala-Redemption-and-Femininity.htm]. I imagine that all of this could affect seating arrangements.Law momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859590966207623757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-10107010886524303692013-01-22T09:29:28.697-05:002013-01-22T09:29:28.697-05:00In my ideal world, the word "kerfuffle" ...In my ideal world, the word "kerfuffle" will be launched into deep space forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-6603067018659647282013-01-22T09:18:38.319-05:002013-01-22T09:18:38.319-05:00How do you know what the worship would be like in ...How do you know what the worship would be like in a re-built Beit Hamikdash in modern times? Would we reinstitute sacrifice? Not all sages even agree to that?<br /><br />Would women play different roles?<br /><br />You have no idea. No one does.<br /><br />It would behoove us to stop denigrating women who feel an attachement to Judaism, yet feel shut out. It's simply too easy to cast them aside with the label "agitators."LTCnoreply@blogger.com