tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post5214411173085510703..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: Please Pass the Barf BagMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-11293600987815184102009-07-29T13:00:26.397-04:002009-07-29T13:00:26.397-04:00No, no, Thatcher had the coal miners beaten in the...No, no, Thatcher had the coal miners beaten in the street. Bevin hung children for knowing how to spell the word "Zionism". I think it was back in Disraeli's time with the bread thing.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-49463107707846653262009-07-28T15:02:10.650-04:002009-07-28T15:02:10.650-04:00Wow, children hanged for stealing bread! Was this...Wow, children hanged for stealing bread! Was this under Tony Blair, or does it go all the way back to Margaret Thatcher?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752938979399977997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-74306740765490534922009-07-27T21:49:04.899-04:002009-07-27T21:49:04.899-04:00Down to modern times, the fine in the UK for a mis...Down to modern times, the fine in the UK for a mistreated animal was much higher than for a mistreated animal. <br /><br />And hungry young children were hanged for stealing a loaf of bread!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-64098312128336960912009-07-27T17:23:11.756-04:002009-07-27T17:23:11.756-04:00Oh, yeah-- Dalrymple's great! He writes for t...Oh, yeah-- Dalrymple's great! He writes for the City Journal sometimes and I enjoy his writing. Well, OK, if he'll vouch for you.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752938979399977997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-27780651166496861732009-07-27T13:56:53.750-04:002009-07-27T13:56:53.750-04:00You're saying the same thing I am, based on in...You're saying the same thing I am, based on individuals, and I'm not disagreeing with you.<br /><br />Look, have you ever heard of Theodore Dalrymple? He's a British psychiatrist turned newspaper columnist. He is famous for noting that the reason British society is coming apart at the seams is because the British hate their children. Now, I'm sure you'll agree with me that on an individual level there are probably lots of British families that are loving and warm. But on a cultural level as a society he feels they're the opposite - that the average British child is unloved by his parents. <br />I'm just saying that in Jewish society it's the opposite. Culturally our children are extremely important to us and the focus of a lot of positive attention.Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-32029134329302011892009-07-27T13:24:53.683-04:002009-07-27T13:24:53.683-04:00Utterly ridiculous. First, you cannot measure the...Utterly ridiculous. First, you cannot measure the extent to which a normal person loves (or does not love) his or her children. Second, I've known of Jewish parents who seemed less than attached to their children, and gentile parents who are incredibly devoted. In the end, most parents I know (of any persuasion) seem to be within a normal range of attachment (which is to say, quite attached) to their children. I have no idea where you get this stuff, Garnel, but it's absurd.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752938979399977997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-20715572065501071222009-07-27T11:29:07.309-04:002009-07-27T11:29:07.309-04:00I was not speaking on an individual level but on a...I was not speaking on an individual level but on a national level.<br />The British take pride in their culture, the Germans on their efficiency. Jews take pride in loving their children. Certainly there are individual exceptions (see the current rioting, for example) but it is still valid as a national characteristic.Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-63698637783609866452009-07-27T10:54:55.566-04:002009-07-27T10:54:55.566-04:00Yes, Shafran is a clown. By and large, I'm in...Yes, Shafran is a clown. By and large, I'm in agreement with your point here, but will take exception to one minor detail:<br /><br />"No other people worries so much about their children. No other people are willing to protect them from any danger possible. No other people places so much values (sic) in their happiness."<br /><br />This statement, aside from being wrong, is rank bigotry. I've known plenty of gentiles who love their children as much as I love mine. I've read (fairly recently) various accounts of non-Jews who died saving-- or trying to save-- their children's lives; when you write that these people just don't feel parental love at the same level that Jews do, you are doing a gross injustice.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752938979399977997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-8243863442448454532009-07-25T15:34:36.704-04:002009-07-25T15:34:36.704-04:00"So imagine Israeli authorities, who have a l..."So imagine Israeli authorities, who have a little more Jewish feeling than their Chareidi antogonists generally give them credit for, seeing a child suffering?"<br /><br />Excellent diagnosis, Dr.Garnel. And let me add that the damage the riots have done to the non-dati staff's connection to Yahadut is even greater than the mortification the riots have caused dati staff.<br /><br />And I was appalled by the inability of the press to distinguish between a gastro tube and an NG tube.<br /><br />Shavua tov,<br />Manya Shochet, RNManya Shochetnoreply@blogger.com