tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post7521060058572437968..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: Chareidim and ChareidismMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-71431059126854483162011-11-21T01:19:08.701-05:002011-11-21T01:19:08.701-05:00I think there is another factor that you have to t...I think there is another factor that you have to throw into this mix and that is the drive for simplicity in definition. There are charedim who truly know the spectrum of Torah and choose to be personally stringent in order to avoid areas of disagreement and attempt to observe as many opinions as possible. There are those, though, who are only taught the one stringent view as the sole, correct view of Torah with this view not only being defined by stringency but also simplicity. This simplicity means that one does not have to confront complexity of a situation, evaluate it and determine an appropriate response. With this simplicity, people can become even more fanatic and intense in the manner that they deem appropriate. An example of this are the women who, arguing in the name of tzniut, started to adopt strictures like covering their faces. This is not a Charedism based on behavioural standards to fit into a community but reflects a more, even idealistic, system based upon ultimately a promotion of ignorance specifically of complexity.<br /><br />Rabbi Ben HechtRabbi Ben Hechthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13424122479105225620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-70325882885135973462011-11-13T13:53:19.461-05:002011-11-13T13:53:19.461-05:00Bekishe, not Bekisher. בעקיטשע. It's pronounce...Bekishe, not Bekisher. בעקיטשע. It's pronounced Bekitcheh by most, bekishe by some. Never bekisher.Yeedlehttp://twitter.com/yeedlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-34920208701101868622011-11-11T05:05:22.854-05:002011-11-11T05:05:22.854-05:00Instead of 'hoping' why not send it to him...Instead of 'hoping' why not send it to him.<br />The girl you talk about is quite right. A YU guy has other 'faults' apart from 'earning' a living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-73637807726324439302011-11-10T10:10:13.769-05:002011-11-10T10:10:13.769-05:00I think this is a great addendum/commentary of Rab...I think this is a great addendum/commentary of Rabbi Slifkin's essay. Your points are very valid - and I try to emphasize this to people who are dating (mostly girls) who outrightly reject the prospect of going out with a YU guy, no matter how much time he spends in the beis medrish and how truly "chared" he is, though he also fully believes in the YU hashkafa and in YU as an institution. It's crazy how some people can turn down someone who fits their more chareidi view of what they want in a spouse, but pre-emptively turn them down because they don't practice chareidism. <br /><br />I hope Rabbi Slifkin reads this post.Shades of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733139852424935591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-36952993335804602802011-11-09T23:53:42.468-05:002011-11-09T23:53:42.468-05:00>> On one hand a society based on the princi...>> On one hand a society based on the principle of "learn, don't earn" could only exist if there is a source of outside wealth to maintain it. <br /><br />Agreed. Interesting to note same with the kibbutzim. they rant that they're the only successful communism but what pays for their military protection? Capitalism of course.<br /><br />Anyways, to be honest it's both humerous and sad to watch from afar jewish society imploding on its own arrogance. Caused by their own claim to absolute truth, their own failure to admit that they don't have all the answers, and their own desire to fit in.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.com