tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post8436597035060146542..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: But Can They Do Their JobMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-54328775511877968752011-09-15T00:17:15.590-04:002011-09-15T00:17:15.590-04:00While I hear your point, and while I somewhat admi...While I hear your point, and while I somewhat admire these soldiers' convictions, I have to ask whether these soldiers could have politely asked in advance whether there was going to be female singing. They knew they were going to hear a military band. The correct time to raise concerns would have been before, instead of insulting the women during the performance by causing a scene.<br /><br />Many poskim argue that unless listening to a woman sing is deliberately sexually enticing, there's no real la'av of kol isha.Devorahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-67113404753166487572011-09-14T15:38:54.469-04:002011-09-14T15:38:54.469-04:00i think jrkmommy summed it up very nicely "un...i think jrkmommy summed it up very nicely "understand the general concept in the military that the actual skill of a soldier is irrelevant if that soldier cannot be trusted to follow orders." <br /> post gush katif, the kippa sruga soldier is on one handed respected as being a dedicated soldier, but suspect that he will defy an order if he feels it is against his religious beliefs. as a mother of a kipa wearing combat soldier, it is very interesting to see that while there are so many religious soldiers in these units, there are men who arent being allowed to serve bc they have been arrested in the past for being at an illegal protest. <br /> your analogy seems to show a lack of understanding of the general complexity of the situation,f/enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-32878325233048682142011-09-14T15:38:52.288-04:002011-09-14T15:38:52.288-04:00It's the same idiot thinking that leads fire d...It's the same idiot thinking that leads fire departments in Canada to hire people based on on gender rather than ability. Honestly, if you're trapped in a burning house do you want (a) the biggest, stronger firefighter to come and rescue you regardless of its gender/sexual orientation or (b) someone whose background is reflective the community the department represents?<br />Same thing here. It makes no sense to us but for them "It's our way or no way at all!"Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-81248183080495720992011-09-14T15:29:04.574-04:002011-09-14T15:29:04.574-04:00I understand your comment Garnel, but wouldn't...I understand your comment Garnel, but wouldn't these people rather win wars? To degrade the country's defensive capabilities out of pique is very dumb.Bob Millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-96171664670219312011-09-14T11:47:33.115-04:002011-09-14T11:47:33.115-04:00If one judged doctors solely by reading the discip...If one judged doctors solely by reading the discipline reports, one would have to conclude that 80% are psychiatrists having sexual relations with patients, 20% are pushing narcotics, but almost none are incompetent.<br /><br />The truth, of course, is that concerns about treatment itself generally go to a different committee. Being less than perfect doesn't mean that a doctor is unfit to practice, and the committee will consider whether extra training or supervision may resolve any issue. The discipline committee is generally reserved for those who broke the law, or who cannot be trusted to practice within the rules.<br /><br />I understand the general concept in the military that the actual skill of a soldier is irrelevant if that soldier cannot be trusted to follow orders. If a soldier would refuse to break up a demonstration or carry out an evacuation order, for example, that would be a serious breach of discipline and indicate a lack of control.<br /><br />OTOH, I think that the order given to these soldiers to stay for the concert even after they expressed religious concerns was totally out of line with established IDF policy of religious accommodation. There was no military reason to order the soldiers to stay. I agree that the IDF should be doing what it can to accommodate religious soldiers, not alienate them, especially since refusing to do so will just increase the rate of yeshivah exemptions, which in turn weakens both the army and the general Israeli economy.Law momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859590966207623757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-19077991268297229632011-09-14T08:54:21.220-04:002011-09-14T08:54:21.220-04:00There are many in the secular community who feel t...There are many in the secular community who feel threatened by the motivated religious. For a long time the army was considered the crown jewel of secular society and the idea that the religious would one day take it over by showing the same fervour that seculars once showed a couple of generations ago is frightening to themMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-10285552799147913982011-09-14T08:29:04.700-04:002011-09-14T08:29:04.700-04:00What sane person would want to discourage the high...What sane person would want to discourage the highly motivated religious soldier?Bob Millernoreply@blogger.com