tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post8845543573921401531..comments2024-01-30T12:26:03.019-05:00Comments on The Blog of Garnel Ironheart: Deborah Feldman and UnOrthodoxMighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09571194550300367249noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-71563041464120503662012-05-03T09:15:21.682-04:002012-05-03T09:15:21.682-04:00This is a very intriguing book because it gives an...This is a very intriguing book because it gives an insight into growing up in the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic community of Satmar. Although I was familiar with other Hasidic sects, the Satmar were new to me. She explains it mostly through the eyes of a child so I had to do a bit of on-line research to learn more about them. The biggest surprise is their complete opposition to Israel - they believe they must wait for the coming of the Messiah to return to their homeland - but much of the daily life seems similar (to me) to other Hasidic communities.Italiahttp://marraige2last.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-50447061289262765612012-02-27T06:44:12.598-05:002012-02-27T06:44:12.598-05:00i agree with SJ. her complaints do no invalidate t...i agree with SJ. her complaints do no invalidate the importance of the Torah and Talmud. regardless of how accurate or in accurate the complaints are. If the system is flawed well so far i have no heard of any system that cant be misused including democracy. However I do agree that the question big question of ""what is the right system' is an interesting question. being a philosopher i cant help but wonder about it. But since this question is too big for me i prefer to emulate the hound dog who keeps his or her nose on the ground and looks at little questions.Avraham https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822433921393627746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-71040633720429191942012-02-26T19:07:45.286-05:002012-02-26T19:07:45.286-05:00This Feldman girl seems to have some deepseated is...This Feldman girl seems to have some deepseated issues and seems to me she needs to go by herself for a while to find peace. It's a process.<br /><br />On the other hand, if the orthodox world had more free speech so people could vent issues without fear of being penalized ...... maybe things would be different.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-55810746821904291762012-02-26T08:22:45.844-05:002012-02-26T08:22:45.844-05:00in spite of my respect for the satmer rav it does ...in spite of my respect for the satmer rav it does not look to me that he was Torah genius. have you ever read the Al HaTemura? Building halacha conclusions from midrashim?. he could write and very powerfully but i did not see a drop of anything that could be called a halachic argument.Avraham https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822433921393627746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-88756826531111478772012-02-26T06:32:11.571-05:002012-02-26T06:32:11.571-05:00I'm not going to yell. But I will point out t...I'm not going to yell. But I will point out that being a genius in Torah and being a tzadik are not synonymous and that the Satmar Rebbe was proof of this.Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1097749014220347853.post-49011396585634246692012-02-26T05:42:27.568-05:002012-02-26T05:42:27.568-05:00Frum world is 1/2 good 1/2 evil. The trick is to c...Frum world is 1/2 good 1/2 evil. The trick is to connect to the 1/2 good part. She was from what i can tell from satmer. Satmer did have a tzadik as a leader. (Don't yell at me for saying this. Being a tzadik does not mean having right opinions. It refers to personal avodah and the probability of a certain insight into the spiritual worlds. A zadik can disagree and even fight against other tzadikim. He can even be wrong sometimes. and he can sin too. But then he repents of the sin.)At any rate after this whole speech let me mention that she was in Satmer after reb yoel was no longer there and the atmosphere was in fact quite oppressive. (I was there and i can understand how she must have felt there). Even good communities can deteriorate.Avraham https://www.blogger.com/profile/07822433921393627746noreply@blogger.com