Navonim - The Ramblings of Garnel Ironheart

Navonim - The Ramblings of Garnel Ironheart

Monday, 12 April 2010

Obama is Safe

Last week the pro-American president of Kyrgystan (or whatever) was overthrown in a coup.  Shadowy news reports suggest Russian involvement.
A couple of days ago a plane carrying the pro-American Polish president, military chief of staff and lots of top government officials crashed in Russia.  And it's the Russians who are running the investigation.
Suspicious yet?
However, the good news is that BH Obama is safe.  It seems that only pro-American presidents are being targetted.


Shalmo said...

you enjoy doing that "BH Obama" thing, in your Ann Coulter-istic support for the conspiracy theory that Obama is an undercover muslim who wants to kill Jews and take over the US

In which case you ought to know that both "hussain" and "hasan" are common jewish names, particularly amongst the sephardic community

so if you have suspicions about Obama, just because he has a certain name, then think again!

Garnel Ironheart said...

No, I've never said that Obama is an undercover Muslim, nor do I think he wants to take over the US. I do think he's an incompetent president who's so concerned about being nice with America's enemies that he's made screwing its allies his main foreign policy.

SJ said...

Obama's father was Islamic and Islam is passed down paternally (

Shalmo said...

Actually SJ I have read his father was an atheist.

Islam is not passed down patrilineally, rather anyone who believes in the shahadda or other tenaments of their theology is considered a muslim.

Though its also similar to say native american religions, where belief, culture, nationhood and the whole way of life and so on are part of it. There are plenty of atheists in the US for example who have become muslim; as in not believing in God but taking on a humanistic interpretation of the Quran. So we see belief alone is but one part of it.

I don't think there is any doubt that Obama is a christian and frankly all his Israel-related advisor are hold overs from the Clinton administration.

But it has been argued Obama is a cultural christian, but a skeptic at heart!

SJ said...

Shalmo you are the one who gave me all that bull shit about how in Arabic culture everything is patrilineal- in order to argue about the non-Arabic Old Testament if Messiahship can be passed down through a woman.

Newsweek: Islam is passed down through the father.

However, somehow when it comes to Obama, Islam is magically not patriarchal.

Do you really believe Obama's father was an atheist? I'm pretty sure that there's a minimal number of Islamic atheists. The Muslims make sure of this in ways that are abhorrent to Western morality.